Comments on: Beautiful Websites = Successful Websites? http://thedeltree.org/blog/2008/04/20/beautiful-websites-successful-websites/ Lights and sound to open eyes, break through, and inspire. To move you. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:28:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: breece http://thedeltree.org/blog/2008/04/20/beautiful-websites-successful-websites/comment-page-1/#comment-43 breece Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:01:04 +0000 http://thedeltree.org/blog/?p=29#comment-43 Sporkfoo, Hi! :) Thanks for commenting! Honestly- your comments are dead on. 99 Percent of your clients out there care about function and performance rather that style and design. I love what you ended with- selling the client on something they don't understand. Wow, that's a brain full in one sentence. Sporkfoo,

Hi! :) Thanks for commenting! Honestly- your comments are dead on. 99 Percent of your clients out there care about function and performance rather that style and design.

I love what you ended with- selling the client on something they don’t understand. Wow, that’s a brain full in one sentence.

]]> By: sporkfoo http://thedeltree.org/blog/2008/04/20/beautiful-websites-successful-websites/comment-page-1/#comment-35 sporkfoo Sun, 01 Jun 2008 20:39:50 +0000 http://thedeltree.org/blog/?p=29#comment-35 The bulk of my client base wouldn't know "beautiful design" even if they were beat about the head with it. They look for function. And I try to talk them out of more serious design sins - but I'm not always successful. A lot of times there's a huge gulf between what the designers see as exceptional design, and what the client wants...The hard part is selling the client on something they don't really understand. The bulk of my client base wouldn’t know “beautiful design” even if they were beat about the head with it. They look for function. And I try to talk them out of more serious design sins - but I’m not always successful.

A lot of times there’s a huge gulf between what the designers see as exceptional design, and what the client wants…The hard part is selling the client on something they don’t really understand.

]]> By: breece http://thedeltree.org/blog/2008/04/20/beautiful-websites-successful-websites/comment-page-1/#comment-14 breece Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:19:03 +0000 http://thedeltree.org/blog/?p=29#comment-14 Jonah, Thanks for the comment! Yea, I totally am ranting on Happy Cog- what an insane idea right? I should just copy their website, and let the dollars pile up ;). Seriously though, I think the point you guys are making is valid: Sex Sells. haha.. Jonah,

Thanks for the comment! Yea, I totally am ranting on Happy Cog- what an insane idea right? I should just copy their website, and let the dollars pile up ;).

Seriously though, I think the point you guys are making is valid:

Sex Sells.

haha..

]]> By: Jonah http://thedeltree.org/blog/2008/04/20/beautiful-websites-successful-websites/comment-page-1/#comment-13 Jonah Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:25:35 +0000 http://thedeltree.org/blog/?p=29#comment-13 I think in the case of Happy Cog what they mean by this bit of uninspiring marketing is that they design sites that are excellent, successful, and visually captivating. Which is as close to the definition of Beautiful as a website can get. Also, who can blame them for keeping their copy low key? It's not like there's a shortage of business coming their way. I think in the case of Happy Cog what they mean by this bit of uninspiring marketing is that they design sites that are excellent, successful, and visually captivating. Which is as close to the definition of Beautiful as a website can get.

Also, who can blame them for keeping their copy low key? It’s not like there’s a shortage of business coming their way.

]]> By: breece http://thedeltree.org/blog/2008/04/20/beautiful-websites-successful-websites/comment-page-1/#comment-11 breece Mon, 21 Apr 2008 00:51:16 +0000 http://thedeltree.org/blog/?p=29#comment-11 Raphite1, Very insightful comment. I actually agree with both your points. Yes, being effective at reaching the target business should and is assumed. And "beautiful websites are a widely accepted concept. However, my point, is that was how bogus a focus "beautiful" is. A car, we say its beautiful. When we make a piece of fine furniture, etc. But, when we are developing an application, an interface, its appearance is strictly a by-product of its function. Although, we are now opening the door to modern vs post modern design ethos. Thus, functional and usable design, may be a valid selling point. Beautiful? Hardly. Raphite1,

Very insightful comment. I actually agree with both your points. Yes, being effective at reaching the target business should and is assumed. And “beautiful websites are a widely accepted concept. However, my point, is that was how bogus a focus “beautiful” is.

A car, we say its beautiful. When we make a piece of fine furniture, etc. But, when we are developing an application, an interface, its appearance is strictly a by-product of its function. Although, we are now opening the door to modern vs post modern design ethos.

Thus, functional and usable design, may be a valid selling point. Beautiful? Hardly.

]]> By: Raphite1 http://thedeltree.org/blog/2008/04/20/beautiful-websites-successful-websites/comment-page-1/#comment-10 Raphite1 Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:30:55 +0000 http://thedeltree.org/blog/?p=29#comment-10 I am completely outside the industry and there is zero reason to pay attention to my analysis, but luckily such matters are no restriction on the internet! Yeah, being "effective at reaching the target business" is the ultimate goal, but this goal is always understood to be present. I don't think that advertising an ability to make beautiful websites is empty language, it is a description of how that goal (reaching target business) will be achieved. Yes, it it only part of the overall equation, but I suspect that many would consider it to be a powerful part, and also something easily expressed in an ad. However, I guess there is a counterargument goes something like: if the importance of "beautiful" websites is widely accepted, then it too is a goal always understood to be present, and therefore any promise to deliver a "beautiful" website is just as useless as a promise to deliver a website "effective at reaching the target business" - people know you're going to try to do this to begin with. I think I may have just argued that ads are meaningless in general, which is totally not what I started out to do.... I am completely outside the industry and there is zero reason to pay attention to my analysis, but luckily such matters are no restriction on the internet!
Yeah, being “effective at reaching the target business” is the ultimate goal, but this goal is always understood to be present. I don’t think that advertising an ability to make beautiful websites is empty language, it is a description of how that goal (reaching target business) will be achieved. Yes, it it only part of the overall equation, but I suspect that many would consider it to be a powerful part, and also something easily expressed in an ad.
However, I guess there is a counterargument goes something like: if the importance of “beautiful” websites is widely accepted, then it too is a goal always understood to be present, and therefore any promise to deliver a “beautiful” website is just as useless as a promise to deliver a website “effective at reaching the target business” - people know you’re going to try to do this to begin with.

I think I may have just argued that ads are meaningless in general, which is totally not what I started out to do….

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